Paglilinaw sa Paniniwalang Katoliko Hinggil sa Diyos Ama at Diyos Anak

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  (1Jn 5:7, KJV)

Source: PAGLILINAW (Sa Paniniwalang Katoliko) DEBATE FORUM

Christina Dela Cruz

Ang Dios ng Kristiano, convertable?

Noong nasa langit pa ang Diyos, ang tawag sa kanya ay, "Diyos Ama."

Nang magkatawang-tao na at bumaba sa lupa, ang tawag na sa kanya ay "diyos anak" na.

about 2 weeks ago

 

Aquino Bayani

Mga kapatid, ang Diyos ay Espiritu.  Ang Panginoong HesuKristo ay Diyos na nagkatawang tao (Jn 1:14; 1Tm 3:16).  Ang Espiritu ng Diyos at Espiritu ng Panginoong HesuKristo ay iisa (Jn 10:30).  Ang Diyos ay iisa pero Siya'y pinakamakapangyarihan sa lahat, at ang pag-bilocation ay isang child's play lang sa Kanya.  Ang Diyos ay palaging nasa langit at ang inutusan niyang Diyos para lalangin ang lahat lahat ay ang kanyang Bilocation o sariling Espiritu Niya na nananahan sa Kaluluwa ni Kristo na tinawag niyang Anak sapagkat Siya'y galing sa Kanyang sinapupunan (bosom, Jn 1:18).  Ang kaluluwa ni Kristo ay begotten ng Diyos kaya natural na mababa ito kesa sa Espiritu ng Diyos, pero ang parehong Espiritu ng Diyos ay na-infused nga sa Kaluluwa ni Kristo kaya Siya at ang Ama ay tunay na iisang Diyos.  God bless us all.

September 9 at 9:00pm via mobile

Christina Dela Cruz

Saan mababasa sa Bibliya na sinabi ng Diyos mismo o ni Jesus mismo ang mga ganya ipinaliwanag mo kapatid na Aquino.  Magbigay po tayo ng malilinaw na ebedensya sa bawat sinasabi natin.  Huwag pong sariling opinyon lamang.

September 9 at 9:16pm via mobile

Aquino Bayani

Mga kapatid.  Kaya hindi natin maunawaan ang hiwaga ng Diyos ay dahil sa isang maling paniniwala nating mga sangkatauhan na tayo ay gawa sa katawan at kaluluwa lamang.  Mayroon din po tayong espiritu, ayon na rin kay San Pablo: “Nawa'y lubusan kayong pabanalin ng Diyos na siyang nagbibigay ng kapayapaan.  At nawa'y panatilihin niyang walang kapintasan ang buo ninyong katauhan---ang espiritu, kaluluwa, at katawan---hanggang sa pagparito ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo (1Thes 5:23).”

Ito naman ang sinabi ng Aklat ng Karunungan (Wisdom): “Dahil sa hindi niya kinilala ang Lumikha na nagkaloob sa kanya ng isang may bisang kaluluwa, ng isang buhay na espiritu (Kar 15:11).”  Sa Ingles ay ganito: “Because he knew not the one who fashioned him, and breathed into him a quickening soul, and infused a vital spirit (Wis 15:11, NAB).”

Ang espiritu ng pangkaraniwang tao ay “spark” na galing sa Espiritu ng Diyos kaya ito ay nagtataglay ng sariling buhay, na siya ring bumubuhay sa ating mga nilalang na kaluluwa at katawan.  Ang Espiritu ng Panginoong HesuKristo ay hindi isang “spark” lamang kundi ang Espiritu ng Diyos mismo na pinanggagalingan ng mga espiritu natin na mga “spark” lang ng Kanyang hindi lalang na Espiritu ng Diyos.  Ayon sa Bibliya: “Sapagkat ang buong kalikasan ng Diyos ay na kay Cristo nang siya'y maging tao (Col 2:9).”

Ito naman ang patotoo ng Panginoong HesuKristo na ang Espiritu ng Diyos (o ng Ama) ay nasa Kanyang Kaluluwa, at ang Kanyang Kaluluwa ay nasa Ama (o Espiritu ng Diyos):

“Ngunit kung ginagawa ko iyon, paniwalaan ninyo ang aking mga gawa, kung ayaw man ninyo akong paniwalaan.  Sa gayon, matitiyak ninyong nasa akin ang Ama at ako'y nasa kanya (Jn 10:38).”

“Hindi ka ba naniniwalang ako'y sumasa-Ama at ang Ama'y sumasaakin?  Ang mga salitang sinasabi ko ay hindi ko sinasabi sa ganang aking sarili.  Ang Amang sumasaakin ang gumaganap ng kanyang mga gawain.  Maniwala kayo sa akin: ako'y sumasa-Ama at ang Ama'y sumasaakin.  Kung ayaw ninyong maniwala sa sinasabi ko, maniwala kayo dahil sa mga gawang ito (Jn 14:10-11).”

Kaya nga ang nasusulat ay ganito: “Ang Diyos ay Espiritu kaya dapat siyang sambahin sa espiritu at sa katotohanan (Jn 4:24), ” na ang ibig sabihin ay dapat sambahin natin Siya sa pamamagitan ng ating espiritu – lalang na espiritu natin ang dapat sumamba sa hindi lalang na Espiritu ng Diyos at ni Kristo: “Ngunit hindi na kayo namumuhay ayon sa laman kundi ayon sa Espiritu, kung talagang nananahan sa inyo ang Espiritu ng Diyos.  Kung ang Espiritu ni Cristo'y wala sa isang tao, hindi siya kay Cristo (Rom 8:9).”  Nabasa ba niyo, mga kapatid, na interchangeable ang Espiritu ng Diyos at Espiritu ni Kristo na nananahan sa ating kaluluwa? Iyan ay sapagkat Sila’y Iisa: “Ako at ang Ama ay iisa (Jn 10:30).”

September 9 at 11:03pm

IS CHRIST GOD? PART I

WHO WAS THE WORD IN JOHN 1:1?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  (JN 1:1, New American Bible)

Q1: What and who was the Word?

A1: The Word was a life-giving Spirit who coexisted with God in heaven in eternity (1COR 15:45, 47).  The Word was none other than Christ, the Anointed of God (PS 2:2; JN 4:25-26).  After His prophesied incarnation was fulfilled (ISA 7:14, 9:5; MT 1:21-23), Christ was given the human name JESUS (MT 1:21, 25; LK 1:31, 2:21), the Name that is above every name of which absolutely all must worship (PHIL 2:9-10; HEB 1:6).  Therefore, the destructive heresies (2PT 2:1) that the Word was just a plan, a scheme, or what have you, which were being peddled around by the false teachers today, are excrements that must be flushed in the toilet bowl right away.

Q2: What is the proof of Christ being the Word?

A2: The “Word” is short for the “Word of God.”  The Word of God has many names like, "Faithful and True," "King of kings and Lord of lords," and even an undisclosed name (REV 19:11-16).  The Faithful and True is the source of God's creation (REV 3:14), who is none other than Christ (JN 1:3; ACTS 3:15; Col 1:15-17).  The King of kings and Lord of lords is the Lamb (RV 17:14), who is none other than Christ (JN 1:29, 36).  The prophet Isaiah was the first recorded in the Scriptures to name the LORD God as the Faithful and True (ISA 25:1).  The LORD God referred to by Isaiah is none other than Christ - the Alpha and the Omega who is coming soon (RV 1:8, 22:20).

Now that we’d proven that the Word was none other than Christ, we’ll substitute the said God’s Name in John 1:1, thus, we have:

In the beginning was Christ, and Christ was with God, and Christ was God.

Actually, there are at least two Bible Translations that are succinct enough to name Christ as indeed the Word, and here they are:

In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.  (Amplified Bible)

BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE existed, there was Christ, with God.  He has always been alive and is Himself God.  (The Living Bible, Tyndale)

An ambiguous rendition of the same verse above was that of the Lamsa Translation which implies God (the Father) was the Word and not Christ (the Son):

THE WORD was in the beginning, and that very Word was with God, and God was that Word.

The mistranslation of John 1:1 by Dr. George Lamsa was made conspicuous with just 13 verses forward in his own bible version.  From John 1:1, God the Father (Word) turned out to be the first-born of the Father in this verse below:

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, a glory like that of the first-born of the Father, full of grace and truth.  (JN 1:14)

Also in John 1:18, Dr. Lamsa sounded it like God the Father (Word/first-born) is in the bosom of his Father:

No man has ever seen God; but the first-born of God, who is in the bosom of his Father, he has declared him.  (JN 1:18)

In fairness to Dr. Lamsa, he may be very zealous in attributing the Word to the Father, but his fervor became undone in his mistranslation of ACTS 20:28.  In JN 1:1, Dr. Lamsa said, “and God was that Word” and in JN 1:14, he said, “the Word became flesh.”  The implication of Dr. Lamsa was very clear: God became flesh.  Dr. Lamsa could not be more divinely inspired in positively proclaiming the truth of God which jibes perfectly with 1TM 3:16, KJV, which says: God was manifest in the flesh.  But alas, Dr. Lamsa’s passion for God wafted “like a morning cloud or like the dew that early passes away, like chaff storm-driven from the threshing floor or like smoke out of the window” when he made a boo-boo in mistranslating Acts 20:28 in this wise:

Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood.  (ACTS 20:28)

In all his earlier translations cited above, Dr. Lamsa was consistently affirming God was the Word, and that the Word (God) became flesh.  Ergo, he should be the most viable bible translator who would have steadfastly stuck to his guns that It was God who shed his blood to purchase his church.  But no, he contradicted himself instead.  All the other Bible Translations of ACTS 20:28 either say church of God or church of the Lord.  Only the Lamsa Translation says church of Christ.

Actually, God and Christ are interchangeable as the Father and Christ are one (JN 10:30).  Unfortunately, there are certain perverted people and churches that capitalizes on the title “church of Christ” who trade on the word of God to overstuff their wallets and coffers (2COR 2:17).  The sadder reality is that these wicked people and churches don’t even believe in the Divinity of Christ and won’t interchange God and Christ come hell or high water.  They just flaunt the Holy Name of God for their own greed that is idolatry (COL 3:5).  For mocking the Name of God by attributing it to a mere man, a false Christ (2COR 11:4), they are also guilty of violating the commandment of God that says:

You shall not take the name of the LORD, your God, in vain.  For the LORD will not leave unpunished him who takes his name in vain.  (DEUT 5:11)

The worst translation of John 1:1 and 1:18 was provided by the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a self-serving, tailor-made, homemade bible of the Jehovah’s Witnesses which made the Word (Christ) a mere god – a fake God, ie, an idol (1JN 5:21).  This is primarily due to their adamant denial of the Divinity of Christ, whom they treat as a no-no God and coldly called “one”:

In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.  This one was in [the] beginning with God.  (JN 1:1-2)

No man has seen God at any time; the only‐begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.  (JN 1:18)

I just can’t help wondering whether Jehovah’s Witnesses ever bent their knees to worship their “god” aka “one” in obedience to this word of God:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth.  (PHIL 2:10)

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OH MY GOD OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME, I pray to You, please save us all Your children from these ravenous wolves in our midst today especially in our poor country, the Philippines (MT 7:15).  I beseech You in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ Your Son, in unity of the Holy Spirit, and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.  Amen.

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IS MARY THE MOTHER OF GOD?

"Blessed is the womb that carried you and the breasts at which you nursed."

ACCORDING TO THE SON, our Lord and God Jesus Christ, Yes, Mary, His Mother, is the Mother of God.

Jesus dictated His affirmative declaration to Maria Valtorta – “Pen of the Lord” – who report:

Excerpt from: THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD [1]

« God created Me when His purpose first unfolded ».

                                                                      (Prov. 8, 22.)

1. Introduction.

22nd August 1944.

Jesus orders me: « Take a completely new notebook. Write down on the first page what I dictated on August the 16th. She will be spoken of in this book.»

I obey and I write.

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16th August 1944.

Jesus says:

« Today write only this. Purity has such a value, that the womb of a creature can contain the Uncontainable One, because She possessed the greatest purity that a creature of God could have.

The Most Holy Trinity descended with Its perfections, inhabited with Its Three Persons, enclosed Its infinity in a small space. But It did not debase Itself by doing so, because the love of the Virgin and the will of God widened this space until they rendered it a Heaven. And the Most Holy Trinity made Itself known by Its characteristics:

The Father, being once again the Creator of the creature, as on the sixth day of Creation, had a real, worthy daughter fashioned to His perfect image. The mark of God was impressed so completely and exactly on Mary, that only in the First-born was it greater. Mary can be called the Second-born of the Father because, owing to the perfection granted to Her and preserved by Her, and to Her dignity of Spouse and Mother of God and Queen of Heaven, She comes second after the Son of the Father and second in His eternal thought, which ab aeterno took delight in Her.

The Son, being also "Her Son", did teach Her, by the mystery of Grace, His truth and wisdom, when He was but an Embryo, growing in Her womb.

The Holy Spirit appeared amongst men, for an anticipated prolonged Pentecost: Love for "Her Whom He loved", Consolation to men because of the Fruit of Her Womb, Sanctification on account of the Maternity of the Holy One.

God, to reveal Himself to men in the new and complete form, which starts the Redemption era, did not select for His throne a star in the sky, nor the palace of a powerful man. Neither did He want the wings of angels as the base of His feet. He wanted a spotless womb.

The Father, being once again the Creator of the creature, as on the sixth day of Creation.

Also Eve had been created spotless. But she wanted to become corrupt of her own free will.  Mary, Who lived in a corrupt world – Eve was in a pure world – did not wish to violate Her purity, not even with one thought remotely connected with sin. She knew that sin exists. She saw its various and horrible forms and implications. She saw them all, including the most hideous one: deicide. But She knew them solely to expiate them and to be, for ever, the Woman who has mercy on sinners and prays for their redemption.

This thought will be the introduction to other holy things that I will give for your benefit and the welfare of many people.»

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 The pronouncement above of the Lord Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of this prophesies:

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[1] THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD by Maria Valtorta (http://www.valtorta.org/; http://www.valtorta.org/BookText/E01_01-10.htm)